Now John Paul Jones says Led Zeppelin were progressive rock

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So I am not the only retard, then. Yes and Led Zeppelin were from the rock sub genre, then?


http://www.ledzeppelinnews.com/2001/12/john-paul-jones-defines-rock-interview.html

SPS: It was actually about two years ago, October '99, you played in Philadelphia. During that live version of "Snake Eyes," I said, "Man, that is definitely some King Crimson influence right there."

JPJ: Oh really?

SPS: Yeah, just the way that it's so progressive and things like that. The instrumentation…

JPJ: Well, we always used to think that Zeppelin was a progressive rock band until it became [laughing] a slightly dirty word. Well, we thought we played progressive rock. People asked, "What sort of band are you?" I said I had played progressively – progressive rock – thinking that it just meant forward-thinking as opposed to anything [inaudible, laughing]. But you're right, "Snake Eyes" was, oops. "Snake Eyes" was in its truest sense progressive rock. ... [laughing] And again, my only record on that label…

SPS: I love trying to figure out how to play "Snake Eyes." I have perfect pitch, so things sort of come naturally, but I mean, when it's that discordant, it's tough.

JPJ: Yeah, it’s tough.

SPS: I once figured it out, but I've since forgotten. Sort of like, "What's Jimmy's symbol mean?" "I used to know."

JPJ: Who knows? I don't think anybody knows.

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So I am not the only retard, then. Yes and Led Zeppelin were from the rock sub genre, then?
http://www.ledzeppelinnews.com/2001/12/john-paul-jones-defines-rock-interview.html
SPS: It was actually about two years ago, October '99, you played in Philadelphia. During that live version of "Snake Eyes," I said, "Man, that is definitely some King Crimson influence right there."
JPJ: Oh really?
SPS: Yeah, just the way that it's so progressive and things like that. The instrumentation…
JPJ: Well, we always used to think that Zeppelin was a progressive rock band until it became [laughing] a slightly dirty word. Well, we thought we played progressive rock. People asked, "What sort of band are you?" I said I had played progressively – progressive rock – thinking that it just meant forward-thinking as opposed to anything [inaudible, laughing]. But you're right, "Snake Eyes" was, oops. "Snake Eyes" was in its truest sense progressive rock. ... [laughing] And again, my only record on that label…
SPS: I love trying to figure out how to play "Snake Eyes." I have perfect pitch, so things sort of come naturally, but I mean, when it's that discordant, it's tough.
JPJ: Yeah, it’s tough.
SPS: I once figured it out, but I've since forgotten. Sort of like, "What's Jimmy's symbol mean?" "I used to know."
JPJ: Who knows? I don't think anybody knows.

Hmmm. LedZep was a lot of things at different times - blues, psychedelic, metal, folk - but I never thought of them as prog.

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I think this has to do with the fact that people think that blues cannot be progressed. If you can progress rock with mixing classical (ELP) or jazz (King Crimson) or folk (Jethro Tull), or avantgarde (Can) or electronic (Kraftwerk) or funk (Kraan) why can't you do the same with blues. In fact I think the metal of bands like Deep Purple and Black Sabbath was also a progressive effort.

Progressive snobs tend to think only bands which are classical or jazz oriented as prog. I think that is a mistake.

[Adam]

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So I am not the only retard, then. Yes and Led Zeppelin were from the
rock sub genre, then? > > > > > >
http://www.ledzeppelinnews.com/2001/12/john-paul-jones-defines-rock-interview.html > > > >
SPS: It was actually about two years ago, October '99, you played in
Philadelphia. During that live version of "Snake Eyes," I said, "Man,
that is definitely some King Crimson influence right there." > > > >
JPJ: Oh really? > > > > SPS: Yeah, just the way that it's so progressive
and things like that. The instrumentation… > > > > JPJ: Well, we always
used to think that Zeppelin was a progressive rock band until it became
[laughing] a slightly dirty word. Well, we thought we played progressive
rock. People asked, "What sort of band are you?" I said I had played
progressively – progressive rock – thinking that it just meant
forward-thinking as opposed to anything [inaudible, laughing]. But
you're right, "Snake Eyes" was, oops. "Snake Eyes" was in its truest
sense progressive rock. ... [laughing] And again, my only record on that
label… > > > > SPS: I love trying to figure out how to play "Snake
Eyes." I have perfect pitch, so things sort of come naturally, but I
mean, when it's that discordant, it's tough. > > > > JPJ: Yeah, it’s
tough. > > > > SPS: I once figured it out, but I've since forgotten.
Sort of like, "What's Jimmy's symbol mean?" "I used to know." > > > >
JPJ: Who knows? I don't think anybody knows. Hmmm. LedZep was a lot of
things at different times - blues, psychedelic, metal, folk - but I
never thought of them as prog.

I think this has to do with the fact that people think that blues cannot
be progressed. If you can progress rock with mixing classical (ELP) or
jazz (King Crimson) or folk (Jethro Tull), or avantgarde (Can) or
electronic (Kraftwerk) or funk (Kraan) why can't you do the same with
blues. In fact I think the metal of bands like Deep Purple and Black
Sabbath was also a progressive effort.
Progressive snobs tend to think only bands which are classical or jazz
oriented as prog. I think that is a mistake.

Purple is definitely proggy at times IMO. The album Fireball has several
good examples of this, and for that matter most of the Morse era stuff as
well.

[James R.]

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I think that is a mistake.

You're a mistake.

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So I am not the only retard, then. Yes and Led Zeppelin were from the rock sub genre, then?

Long songs with spacey lyrics and a high pitched lead singer, that certainly would fit for Led Zep. ;-)

I thought they were a progressive rock and blues band. They were forward thinking as Bonham says...progressive elements, let's give them that.

Jim

[James R.]

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