Billboard BS - Dallas

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Rob Allen

2013-07-03 15:51:05 UTC

From last weeks Billboard Box Score chart, some shows reported from a Dallas, Tx. area venue.

52 Alicia Keys Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas March 17, 2013 $410,397 4.546 /
5.490 1 /
0

59 Romeo Santos Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas April 5, 2013 $351,976 5.615 /
5.676 1 /
0

61 The Killers, The Virgins Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas May 9, 2013 $314,160 6.258 /
6.258 1 /
1

63 Bob Dylan, Mark Knopfler Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Nov. 1, 2012 $301,365 3.877 /
6.001 1 /
0

66 R. Kelly, Tamia Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Nov. 8, 2012 $277,993 3.627 /
4.241 1 /
0

73 Maze featuring Frankie Beverly, Salt-N-Pepa, K-Ci and JoJo Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas March 16, 2013 $253,874 4.114 /
5.619 1 /
0

86 Trey Songz Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Dec. 30, 2012 $208,354 3.087 /
6.333 1 /
0

88 How the Edge Stole Xmas: Silversun Pickups Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Dec. 14, 2012 $207,155 5.393 /
5.496 1 /
0

96 REO Speedwagon and Styx, Ted Nugent Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas May 7, 2013 $186,922 3.501 /
5.431 1 /
0

98 Kendrick Lamar Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas June 12, 2013 $184,984 3.928 /
4.482 1 /
0

102 Love and Laughter Holiday Jam: Kem Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Dec. 28, 2012 $177,275 3.082 /
6.333 1 /
0

108 Diana Krall Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas May 3, 2013 $164,789 2.257 /
2.336 1 /
0 $125, $49.50 AEG Live

109 Sigur Ros, Oneohtrix Point Never Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas April 8, 2013 $164,063 3.750 /
3.929 1 /
0

114 Celtic Thunder Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Nov. 10, 2012 $160,435 2.519 /
3.298 1 /
0 $75, $45 AEG Live

115 Shinedown, Hell or Highwater, Otherwise, Escape the Fate, In This Moment, Papa Roach, Stone Sour Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas April 21, 2013 $158,006 3.196 /
6.395 1 /
0

119 Celtic Woman Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas May 18, 2013 $146,910 2.242 /
3.251 1 /
0 $84.57, $34 AEG Live

120 The Moody Blues Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas March 13, 2013 $145,695 2.497 /
3.163 1 /
0

122 Shaquille O'Neal's All Star Comedy Jam Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Feb. 14, 2013 $142,547 2.920 /
5.747 1 /
0

131 Jackson Browne, Sara Watkins Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Nov. 4, 2012 $130,005 2.150 /
3.199 1 /
0

141 3 Doors Down and Daughtry Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Jan. 25, 2013 $111,658 2.197 /
3.145 1 /
0 $59.75, $34.75 AEG Live

142 Penn and Teller Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas April 12, 2013 $108,374 2.217 /
2.433 1 /
0

145 Russell Peters Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Feb. 17, 2013 $105,192 1.680 /
2.357 1 /
0

148 Roger Hodgson Ruth Eckerd Hall Clearwater, Fla. March 22, 2013 $101,058 1.929 /
2.018 1 /
0

Ok, different venue, but I thought it interesting just the same.

150 Yes Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas March 21, 2013 $99,450 1.628 /
2.302 1 /
0 $75, $35 AEG Live

151 Alan Parsons Live Project Ruth Eckerd Hall Clearwater, Fla. Feb. 15, 2013 $99,058 1.909 /
2.010 1 /
0

And the last one is also a different venue, but I thought it good to note that SHWes managed to gross every bit of $392 more than an act that once opened for Yes.

Rob "all y'all have always been more popular than Yes" Allen

Kevin Caffrey

2013-07-03 17:38:48 UTC

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Post by Rob Allen
From last weeks Billboard Box Score chart, some shows reported from a Dallas, Tx. area venue.
52 Alicia Keys Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas March 17, 2013 $410,397 4.546 /
5.490 1 /
0
59 Romeo Santos Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas April 5, 2013 $351,976 5.615 /
5.676 1 /
0
61 The Killers, The Virgins Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas May 9, 2013 $314,160 6.258 /
6.258 1 /
1
63 Bob Dylan, Mark Knopfler Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Nov. 1, 2012 $301,365 3.877 /
6.001 1 /
0
66 R. Kelly, Tamia Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Nov. 8, 2012 $277,993 3.627 /
4.241 1 /
0
73 Maze featuring Frankie Beverly, Salt-N-Pepa, K-Ci and JoJo Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas March 16, 2013 $253,874 4.114 /
5.619 1 /
0
86 Trey Songz Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Dec. 30, 2012 $208,354 3.087 /
6.333 1 /
0
88 How the Edge Stole Xmas: Silversun Pickups Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Dec. 14, 2012 $207,155 5.393 /
5.496 1 /
0
96 REO Speedwagon and Styx, Ted Nugent Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas May 7, 2013 $186,922 3.501 /
5.431 1 /
0
98 Kendrick Lamar Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas June 12, 2013 $184,984 3.928 /
4.482 1 /
0
102 Love and Laughter Holiday Jam: Kem Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Dec. 28, 2012 $177,275 3.082 /
6.333 1 /
0
108 Diana Krall Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas May 3, 2013 $164,789 2.257 /
2.336 1 /
0 $125, $49.50 AEG Live
109 Sigur Ros, Oneohtrix Point Never Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas April 8, 2013 $164,063 3.750 /
3.929 1 /
0
114 Celtic Thunder Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Nov. 10, 2012 $160,435 2.519 /
3.298 1 /
0 $75, $45 AEG Live
115 Shinedown, Hell or Highwater, Otherwise, Escape the Fate, In This Moment, Papa Roach, Stone Sour Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas April 21, 2013 $158,006 3.196 /
6.395 1 /
0
119 Celtic Woman Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas May 18, 2013 $146,910 2.242 /
3.251 1 /
0 $84.57, $34 AEG Live
120 The Moody Blues Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas March 13, 2013 $145,695 2.497 /
3.163 1 /
0
122 Shaquille O'Neal's All Star Comedy Jam Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Feb. 14, 2013 $142,547 2.920 /
5.747 1 /
0
131 Jackson Browne, Sara Watkins Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Nov. 4, 2012 $130,005 2.150 /
3.199 1 /
0
141 3 Doors Down and Daughtry Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Jan. 25, 2013 $111,658 2.197 /
3.145 1 /
0 $59.75, $34.75 AEG Live
142 Penn and Teller Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas April 12, 2013 $108,374 2.217 /
2.433 1 /
0
145 Russell Peters Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas Feb. 17, 2013 $105,192 1.680 /
2.357 1 /
0
148 Roger Hodgson Ruth Eckerd Hall Clearwater, Fla. March 22, 2013 $101,058 1.929 /
2.018 1 /
0
Ok, different venue, but I thought it interesting just the same.
150 Yes Verizon Theatre Grand Prairie, Texas March 21, 2013 $99,450 1.628 /
2.302 1 /
0 $75, $35 AEG Live
151 Alan Parsons Live Project Ruth Eckerd Hall Clearwater, Fla. Feb. 15, 2013 $99,058 1.909 /
2.010 1 /
0
And the last one is also a different venue, but I thought it good to note that SHWes managed to gross every bit of $392 more than an act that once opened for Yes.
Rob "all y'all have always been more popular than Yes" Allen

Alan Parsons Project, Moody Blues, Roger Hodgson all grossing more than Yes. It is what it is at this point -- I suppose success for Yes at this point as a touring band is anything above an attendance of 1000.

Kevin
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y***@hotmail.com

2013-07-04 21:34:21 UTC

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If you get the chance to see Hodgson, grab it. He's *fantastic* in concert, solo (actually duo, him & a horn player) or with full band. His voice is almost completely untouched by the passing of time, truly amazing, nails high notes Anderson would have trouble reaching, and to think, Yes have asked him to join at least twice, and he's politely declined. Ah, the possibilities......

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Paul

True

2013-07-05 16:04:58 UTC

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Post by y***@hotmail.com
If you get the chance to see Hodgson, grab it. He's *fantastic* in concert, solo (actually duo, him & a horn player) or with full band. His voice is almost completely untouched by the passing of time, truly amazing, nails high notes Anderson would have trouble reaching, and to think, Yes have asked him to join at least twice, and he's politely declined. Ah, the possibilities......

You are right, Hodgson's voice seems to have held up very well. He's also a good player and can carry a solo show pretty well on the keyboards and guitar. He has had great reviews touring with full band recently, and has also done some shows with just one additional player, but that guy plays about 10 instruments and sings very well, so between the two of them they are able to produce a remarkably full sound. I think if JA could track down this same guy who plays with Hodgson, it would make for a much better show if JA brought this fellow along:

y***@hotmail.com

2013-07-05 20:12:46 UTC

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I've seen him with both full-band and the "one other guy", and what impresses me most is Hodgsons songs are so strong that they hold up equally well in either format, I didn't miss the full band at all in just the duo format. I understand his voice and songwriting have a "love it or hate it" type of appeal, much like Anderson. Where Hodgson & Anderson differ however is in their instrumental prowess, RH is capable of playing far more complex instrumentation than the near instrumentally inept JA, something which severely limits what JA can do in concert, and I really wish he'd realize and, as you say, team up with an accomplished player. Or even a *band*, for a change. But I suppose that would mean sharing the profits. :/

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Paul

Adam

2013-07-11 18:09:55 UTC

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Post by y***@hotmail.com
I've seen him with both full-band and the "one other guy", and what
impresses me most is Hodgsons songs are so strong that they hold up
equally well in either format, I didn't miss the full band at all in just
the duo format. I understand his voice and songwriting have a "love it or
hate it" type of appeal, much like Anderson. Where Hodgson & Anderson
differ however is in their instrumental prowess, RH is capable of playing
far more complex instrumentation than the near instrumentally inept JA,
something which severely limits what JA can do in concert, and I really
wish he'd realize and, as you say, team up with an accomplished player.
Or even a *band*, for a change. But I suppose that would mean sharing the profits. :/
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Paul

Well, JA did team up with an accomplished player when he toured with
Wakeman. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be a regular thing. Too bad,
I'd buy a ticket for that combination again any time.

Rob Allen

2013-07-09 23:12:39 UTC

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It was some time ago that "success" for SHWes was defined by their ability to "still get bookings". Certainly using the Yes name pretty much guarantees that "success"...but as it's going now, they do seem to be doing better than tours past...there had been lots of shows where they didn't draw 1000 people, along with those shows with Frampton, Styx, PH where they grossed less that 70k.

I count having a better tribute singer and the more "classic" setlist as reasons for the improvement.

Rob "maybe they dropped the bar as low as it could go" Allen

Post by Kevin Caffrey