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Prog Rock Mag review of Heaven & Earth
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True
2014-07-03 02:31:24 UTC
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So the new Prog magazine is out, and includes a feature on the band and the making of H&E. Further along in the reviews section there is a tucked-away review of the album itself. They call it "a curiously gentle, subdued album". It's not an awful review, and I do not have their review of FFH handy, but I do seem to remember the FFH review as being pretty positive.This review is more along the lines of it's a nice-sounding, pleasant record - but perhaps a bit underwhelming. That's not a quote, just my interpretation.
A few quotes: "you keep waiting for the essential Yes-ness to kick in, for something madly ambitious and brilliantly convoluted to occur. It doesn't, not really"...

"the overall feel is relaxed"...

"Squire, White and Downes are strangely reticent"...

"Davison's fine: he sounds lots like Jon Anderson, as one imagines he is encouraged to"...

"The propellers start to roar on Light of the Ages, and the finale Subway Walls, gets away from the sound of near-silence to discover some bustle and bravado. It's too little too late to make this a great Yes album. It's neither heaven nor hell, but somewhere betwixt the two. Yet it may grow on you as nuances emerge from the subtleties of its sleepy serenity".

I have listened to the record a number of times (I will still buy all of the various versions, the vinyl, the Japanese etc, why stop now.) There are a number of bits that I think I enjoy very much. A couple of the tunes I think people have said they don't like, I think I may like them. But I do agree that it's not much of a rock record. And not particularly "proggy" in the sense that I think most folks mean when they use that term. It is not nearly as loud or aggressive as I had hoped some of it would be. But that is just my taste, perhaps.
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2014-07-03 14:29:14 UTC
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So the new Prog magazine is out, and includes a feature on the band and the making of H&E. Further along in the reviews section there is a tucked-away review of the album itself. They call it "a curiously gentle, subdued album". It's not an awful review, and I do not have their review of FFH handy, but I do seem to remember the FFH review as being pretty positive.This review is more along the lines of it's a nice-sounding, pleasant record - but perhaps a bit underwhelming. That's not a quote, just my interpretation.
A few quotes: "you keep waiting for the essential Yes-ness to kick in, for something madly ambitious and brilliantly convoluted to occur. It doesn't, not really"...
"the overall feel is relaxed"...
"Squire, White and Downes are strangely reticent"...
"Davison's fine: he sounds lots like Jon Anderson, as one imagines he is encouraged to"...
"The propellers start to roar on Light of the Ages, and the finale Subway Walls, gets away from the sound of near-silence to discover some bustle and bravado. It's too little too late to make this a great Yes album. It's neither heaven nor hell, but somewhere betwixt the two. Yet it may grow on you as nuances emerge from the subtleties of its sleepy serenity".
I have listened to the record a number of times (I will still buy all of the various versions, the vinyl, the Japanese etc, why stop now.) There are a number of bits that I think I enjoy very much. A couple of the tunes I think people have said they don't like, I think I may like them. But I do agree that it's not much of a rock record. And not particularly "proggy" in the sense that I think most folks mean when they use that term. It is not nearly as loud or aggressive as I had hoped some of it would be. But that is just my taste, perhaps.
Sounds like people are able to talk themselves in to liking something that when they listen to it, they don't really like. As you said, you "think" you like it. I wish I could think I liked it.

The review makes it sound like New Age Music most bland aspects meet up with leftover 80's prog-pop at it's worst, but I guess that's not so bad?

Jim "I've had all the listens I can stand" Thomas or

Jim "I think for sure I don't like it" Thomas
Michael Smith
2014-07-03 21:08:52 UTC
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I didn't hate the new songs, but they are really dull and boring. Good music to read a book to, buy groceries to or standing in an elevator. Can't wait for the next Yes album called Retired and Dying.
MarkF
2014-07-03 22:35:24 UTC
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Good music to read a book to,
I'm not sure what book would benefit from H&E as a backing track...
something by Dr. Seuss perhaps? Nope, not fair to Dr. Seuss.
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buy groceries to
"Excuse me, which aisle has the 'way-past-the-sale-date' markdowns?"
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or standing in an elevator.
... praying for it not to get stuck between floors...
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2014-07-06 01:26:00 UTC
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I didn't hate the new songs, but they are really dull and boring. Good music to read a book to, buy groceries to or standing in an elevator. Can't wait for the next Yes album called Retired and Dying.
I agree, there is nothing to hate. It's dullsville...if they make a movie called "Dullsville," maybe the sequel to Pleasantville and it's set in some 1985 time warp where muzak sounds like this, then H&E could be the soundtrack album
Bruce Adler
2014-07-26 19:35:34 UTC
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Could someone please ask Alan White to slow down? Wouldn't want him to hurt himself or anything.....and those time signatures....WHEW, off the charts!!!
Michael Smith
2014-07-30 02:25:37 UTC
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Post by Bruce Adler
Could someone please ask Alan White to slow down? Wouldn't want him to hurt himself or anything.....and those time signatures....WHEW, off the charts!!!
LOL, if he slows down anymore, then he'll go into a coma.
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2014-07-30 13:55:02 UTC
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Post by Bruce Adler
Could someone please ask Alan White to slow down? Wouldn't want him to hurt himself or anything.....and those time signatures....WHEW, off the charts!!!
LOL, if he slows down anymore, then he'll go into a coma.
And yet...


Michael Smith
2014-08-03 02:07:24 UTC
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Post by Bruce Adler
Could someone please ask Alan White to slow down? Wouldn't want him to hurt himself or anything.....and those time signatures....WHEW, off the charts!!!
LOL, if he slows down anymore, then he'll go into a coma.
And yet...
http://youtu.be/a3losXlLVGw
Yeah, much better. Too bad that energy couldn't be applied to their new album.
Kevin Caffrey
2014-08-07 16:09:12 UTC
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H&E debuted higher than FFH in the US on the Billboard Top 200 (26 vs. 36) but first week sales seem to have been about 3000 less (8,000 vs. 11,000). 2nd week drop looks a little more drastic than FFH as well. (26->108 1st to 2nd week vs. FFH's 36->97 1st to 2nd week).

Kevin
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2014-08-08 03:18:17 UTC
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H&E debuted higher than FFH in the US on the Billboard Top 200 (26 vs. 36) but first week sales seem to have been about 3000 less (8,000 vs. 11,000). 2nd week drop looks a little more drastic than FFH as well. (26->108 1st to 2nd week vs. FFH's 36->97 1st to 2nd week).
The industry has changed of course and it's hard to sell CD's anymore...yet, 8,000 just seems paltry. I can see why Jon Anderson and Jean Luc-Ponty want to Kickstart their concert and record...

jim
Bruce Adler
2014-08-22 18:42:18 UTC
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Could someone please ask Alan White to slow down? Wouldn't want him to hurt himself or anything.....and those time signatures....WHEW, off the charts!!!
LOL, if he slows down anymore, then he'll go into a coma.
Putting my feet to sleep!
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2014-08-27 22:02:14 UTC
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Post by Bruce Adler
Could someone please ask Alan White to slow down? Wouldn't want him to hurt himself or anything.....and those time signatures....WHEW, off the charts!!!
LOL, if he slows down anymore, then he'll go into a coma.
Putting my feet to sleep!
That's the title of the hidden track on H&E...you are the first to find it!

well done,

Jim

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