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Step Beyond (excerpt)
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MarkF
2014-06-23 14:42:21 UTC
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A sample of Track 3, "Shtup A Blonde"...

sorry, that should read "Step Beyond":

http://soundcloud.com/yesofficial/yes-step-beyond
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2014-06-25 14:10:38 UTC
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Post by MarkF
A sample of Track 3, "Shtup A Blonde"...
This sounds like an outtake from Starcastle's 3rd Album...the Keyboards are especially Disney like. Kind of expect Kermit the Frog to be singing this tune in Muppet Movie. My oh my how they mighty have fallen in to mediocrity. Well, if they play this live this summer there will be plenty of chances for bathroom breaks.

Jim
MarkF
2014-06-25 15:54:48 UTC
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This sounds like an outtake from Starcastle's 3rd Album...
Coincidentally, also produced by Roy Thomas Baker.
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Keyboards are especially Disney like.
My kids have some Wiggles albums they don't listen to anymore. This song
sounds like their stuff to me.
Post by p***@msn.com
Kind of expect Kermit the Frog to be singing this tune in Muppet
Movie.
Kermit has way more integrity than that.
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My oh my how they mighty have fallen in to mediocrity.
I'm measuring that they've fallen well below that.
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Well, if they play this live this summer there will be plenty of
chances for bathroom breaks.
I'm staying in my bathroom for the entire tour...
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y***@hotmail.com
2014-06-25 17:01:46 UTC
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I'm always amazed and amused that people will judge a song, an album, on the first listen. I've been listening to the whole thing for the last 5, 6 days, 30+ times at least, and while there's certainly room for criticism (largely with the production & clearly rushed mix), the songs really do grow on you, or me at least. Subway Walls is the best thing I've heard from these guys in a long, long time, Light Of The Ages isn't far behind, beautiful song, the weakest track is probably It Was All We Knew (because the guitar riff is basically the melody to My Grandfathers Clock & I can't get that association out of my head haha) but even that one grows on repeated hearings. Best Yes album ever? No, of course not. But it's far from the worst and easily one of the most *different* Yes albums to come along.
Give it a chance before making first-listen judgements & cancelling the pre-order.
I hated Relayer when it first came out, took countless listens before it "grew" on me & now I consider it one of the finest albums ever released by anyone, ever. I'm not going to feel that way about H&E but I think my point stands.

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MarkF
2014-06-25 17:50:01 UTC
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I'm always amazed and amused that people will judge a song, an
album, on the first listen.
Why would you think I'm commenting based on only a first listen? I've
also listened through multiple times, but...
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I've been listening to the whole thing for the last 5, 6 days, 30+
times at least,
Whoa, that calculates out to >5-6 times/24 hrs.! Cleanse your palate
once in a while; you've got "New Album Fever"! :-)
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Give it a chance before making first-listen judgements & cancelling the pre-order.
I was never going to cancel my pre-order. There's always an open space
for a new Yes album on my CD shelf. I just had hope that JonD could take
this a level higher than _FFH_; but the rest of the band seem to have
had different "ideas". :-(
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n***@gmail.com
2014-06-25 18:18:08 UTC
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I wasn't aiming at you Mark, just a general statement seeing as there seems to be plenty of first-listen "reviews".
New Album Fever? Lol, maybe, been awhile since I've had anything new that interests me to listen to, the Yes guys aren't that prolific anymore. Well there's *Billy* I suppose. :/

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MarkF
2014-06-25 18:40:11 UTC
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I wasn't aiming at you Mark, just a general statement seeing as there
seems to be plenty of first-listen "reviews".
I know, Paul. I'm selfishly trying to generate some traffic here so I
can put together an 'NQ&SF' at least *annually*!! ;-)
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New Album Fever? Lol,
maybe, been awhile since I've had anything new that interests me to
listen to, the Yes guys aren't that prolific anymore. Well there's
*Billy* I suppose. :/
He puts out something new every month, doesn't he?

<http://www.amazon.com/Light-My-Fire-Classic-Salute/dp/B00K03YWQU/>

I count at least 4 Yes keyboardists on that one.
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Rick
2014-06-26 14:26:13 UTC
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Post by MarkF
He puts out something new every month, doesn't he?
<http://www.amazon.com/Light-My-Fire-Classic-Salute/dp/B00K03YWQU/>
I count at least 4 Yes keyboardists on that one.
Really....it seems like they could have used Igor on "Touch Me".
Rob Allen
2014-06-26 16:12:15 UTC
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I'm always amazed and amused that people will judge a song, an album, on the first listen. I've been listening to the whole thing for the last 5, 6 days, 30+ times at least, and while there's certainly room for criticism (largely with the production & clearly rushed mix), the songs really do grow on you, or me at least. Subway Walls is the best thing I've heard from these guys in a long, long time, Light Of The Ages isn't far behind, beautiful song, the weakest track is probably It Was All We Knew (because the guitar riff is basically the melody to My Grandfathers Clock & I can't get that association out of my head haha) but even that one grows on repeated hearings. Best Yes album ever? No, of course not. But it's far from the worst and easily one of the most *different* Yes albums to come along.
Give it a chance before making first-listen judgements & cancelling the pre-order.
I hated Relayer when it first came out, took countless listens before it "grew" on me & now I consider it one of the finest albums ever released by anyone, ever. I'm not going to feel that way about H&E but I think my point stands.
I've listened to the entire record as many times as I could bear. With each spin I found myself having a harder time not hitting skip, or staying through to the end. Now, I never pre-ordered it, so there's nothing to cancel. Yes, whatever the record might cost is of no issue, but I tend not to support _in any way_ businesses that I view as dishonest, unethical, or even those who honestly and ethically purposely sell inferior product (cheap crap). So these guys had to come with something *really* good to earn my trade.

In my view, this record is beyond boring and something that really seems aimed at an adolecent (or adolecent minded) audience. Juano D's voice alternates from just making me wince, to taking me to full blown cringe. In listening to this thing I began to wonder why I ever viewed him as an upgrade from BD. And Downes...lol...please, what the hell is that guy doing on this thing. If the record is a turd, his contribution makes it a runny and decidely smelly turd. The other three seem phoned in and just plain lazy. How many years now has Howe been playing that same song...since the 80's?

But hey, here we have *another* comparison to Relayer. Yes, I know it's not the same kind of comparison as we saw from *SWasiafans* immediately behind thier _first taste_ of "BA", but the Relayer title is invoked nontheless. I don't remember being in love with Relayer at first listen either...but what I do remember is hearing music that was challenging and *very* interesting. This record doesn't even remotely resemble anything having to do with challenging or interesting. "Subway Walls" may be the best thing _this band_ has done, but somehow I don't find the notion of roughly two minutes of ok stuff hidden in a nine minute stinker to be terrifically compelling.

In the end, for me, this is just more of the continued wrecking of the Yes legacy. HSW's shame knows no bounds.


Rob "FFH was a SHWes record, so H&E is the best thing SWasia has done" Allen
MarkF
2014-06-26 20:06:08 UTC
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Yes, whatever the record might cost is of
no issue, but I tend not to support _in any way_ businesses that I
view as dishonest, unethical, or even those who honestly and
ethically purposely sell inferior product (cheap crap). So these
guys had to come with something *really* good to earn my trade.
Well, they did drop the price to $10 at Amazon! :-)
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Rob Allen
2014-06-26 20:27:05 UTC
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Post by Rob Allen
Yes, whatever the record might cost is of
no issue, but I tend not to support _in any way_ businesses that I
view as dishonest, unethical, or even those who honestly and
ethically purposely sell inferior product (cheap crap). So these
guys had to come with something *really* good to earn my trade.
Well, they did drop the price to $10 at Amazon! :-)
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Mark "but you could buy a lot of other stuff with that $10" F
well, I don't think I can buy anything for $10 here:

https://www.bonfirefunds.com/swayloves-fund-against-bslbdl


But at least the money goes to an honest operator.


Rob "my honestly represented lunch today cost $25 and they earned every penny" Allen
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2014-06-30 03:52:03 UTC
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ROFL -- "DOG RACISM"

What a world. Everybody has gone nuts.

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Paul
Rob Allen
2014-06-30 11:09:38 UTC
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ROFL -- "DOG RACISM"
What a world. Everybody has gone nuts.
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Not quite everybody...just like not quite everybody is stupid. Although you do have a fair amount of company.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/douglas-anthony-cooper/ignorance-kills-one-milli_b_5528603.html

I wonder, do you have people wanting to kill members of your family just because of how they look?


Rob "Note, however, that insisting upon ignorance -- even after you have learned the truth -- is a different matter. It's called "stupidity."" Allen
Rob Allen
2014-06-30 13:12:41 UTC
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ROFL -- "DOG RACISM"
What a world. Everybody has gone nuts.
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Paul
Not quite everybody...just like not quite everybody is ignorant. Although you do have a fair amount of company.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/douglas-anthony-cooper/ignorance-kills-one-milli_b_5528603.html

I wonder, do you have people wanting to kill members of your family just because of how they look?


Rob "Note, however, that insisting upon ignorance -- even after you have learned the truth -- is a different matter. It's called "stupidity."" Allen
Rob Allen
2014-06-30 14:34:40 UTC
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Post by n***@gmail.com
ROFL -- "DOG RACISM"
What a world. Everybody has gone nuts.
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Paul
Not quite everybody...just like not quite everybody is ignorant. Although you do have a fair amount of company.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/douglas-anthony-cooper/ignorance-kills-one-milli_b_5528603.html
I wonder, do you have people wanting to kill members of your family just because of how they look?
Rob "Note, however, that insisting upon ignorance -- even after you have learned the truth -- is a different matter. It's called "stupidity."" Allen
Just in case you have interest in having at least a ~little~ knowledge about a subject on which you ignorantly chose to crack wise, Paul, here's another quick read:

http://time.com/2927759/the-problem-with-people-not-pit-bulls/


Rob "anybody who has time to listen to H&E over and again, should have time to cure their ignorance" Allen
p***@msn.com
2014-07-02 03:02:57 UTC
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Rob's review below both funny and scathing kind of makes the whole new CD worth happening...just for this
Post by Rob Allen
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I'm always amazed and amused that people will judge a song, an album, on the first listen. I've been listening to the whole thing for the last 5, 6 days, 30+ times at least, and while there's certainly room for criticism (largely with the production & clearly rushed mix), the songs really do grow on you, or me at least. Subway Walls is the best thing I've heard from these guys in a long, long time, Light Of The Ages isn't far behind, beautiful song, the weakest track is probably It Was All We Knew (because the guitar riff is basically the melody to My Grandfathers Clock & I can't get that association out of my head haha) but even that one grows on repeated hearings. Best Yes album ever? No, of course not. But it's far from the worst and easily one of the most *different* Yes albums to come along.
Give it a chance before making first-listen judgements & cancelling the pre-order.
I hated Relayer when it first came out, took countless listens before it "grew" on me & now I consider it one of the finest albums ever released by anyone, ever. I'm not going to feel that way about H&E but I think my point stands.
I've listened to the entire record as many times as I could bear. With each spin I found myself having a harder time not hitting skip, or staying through to the end. Now, I never pre-ordered it, so there's nothing to cancel. Yes, whatever the record might cost is of no issue, but I tend not to support _in any way_ businesses that I view as dishonest, unethical, or even those who honestly and ethically purposely sell inferior product (cheap crap). So these guys had to come with something *really* good to earn my trade.
In my view, this record is beyond boring and something that really seems aimed at an adolecent (or adolecent minded) audience. Juano D's voice alternates from just making me wince, to taking me to full blown cringe. In listening to this thing I began to wonder why I ever viewed him as an upgrade from BD. And Downes...lol...please, what the hell is that guy doing on this thing. If the record is a turd, his contribution makes it a runny and decidely smelly turd. The other three seem phoned in and just plain lazy. How many years now has Howe been playing that same song...since the 80's?
But hey, here we have *another* comparison to Relayer. Yes, I know it's not the same kind of comparison as we saw from *SWasiafans* immediately behind thier _first taste_ of "BA", but the Relayer title is invoked nontheless. I don't remember being in love with Relayer at first listen either...but what I do remember is hearing music that was challenging and *very* interesting. This record doesn't even remotely resemble anything having to do with challenging or interesting. "Subway Walls" may be the best thing _this band_ has done, but somehow I don't find the notion of roughly two minutes of ok stuff hidden in a nine minute stinker to be terrifically compelling.
In the end, for me, this is just more of the continued wrecking of the Yes legacy. HSW's shame knows no bounds.
Rob "FFH was a SHWes record, so H&E is the best thing SWasia has done" Allen
MarkF
2014-07-03 14:41:17 UTC
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I'm sure this is a set-up and these kids aren't actually listening to
the "Step Beyond" excerpt... but it still made me laugh:


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2014-07-02 03:01:14 UTC
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Post by MarkF
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This sounds like an outtake from Starcastle's 3rd Album...
Coincidentally, also produced by Roy Thomas Baker.
Post by p***@msn.com
Keyboards are especially Disney like.
My kids have some Wiggles albums they don't listen to anymore. This song
sounds like their stuff to me.
Post by p***@msn.com
Kind of expect Kermit the Frog to be singing this tune in Muppet
Movie.
Kermit has way more integrity than that.
Post by p***@msn.com
My oh my how they mighty have fallen in to mediocrity.
I'm measuring that they've fallen well below that.
Post by p***@msn.com
Well, if they play this live this summer there will be plenty of
chances for bathroom breaks.
I'm staying in my bathroom for the entire tour...
The wisest words on amy in awhile

and good advice

Jim
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